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What inspired you to study law? And how did you find the study?
I can’t actually pin point the reason why I chose law but I wanted to be a solicitor from about aged 15. I wanted a profession and I was scared of blood so being a Doctor was out the question and so I liked law. I did actually enjoy the studying, it was very intense and you had to have a good memory to recall all the different cases. I’ve always been interested in family law rather than corporate. I’m just interested in people’s stories I think.
Did you have a job in place when you graduated?
I graduated with a law degree and then I did a post graduate diploma in legal practice. I didn’t have a job (a trainee solicitor Position) in place. I applied to many many firms but at that time and still today competition was high and I didn’t get a position. I joined Barclays initially intending it to be just for the summer when I’d graduated but I got promoted into their Human Resources department and I advised staff on policies and procedures. I worked for Barclays for 4 years, much longer than I intended but I enjoyed working there but I still hankered after my career in law.
I sent off lots of letters to solicitors firms looking for a paralegal position. I thought they might take me on as a paralegal and I could then prove myself to be worthy of a trainee solicitor position and that’s what happened. I got a job for a firm in Leamington Spa as a paralegal. I did that for about a year and I could apply for some of my time as a paralegal to be taken into account towards my training as a solicitor.
Tell us about the firm...
It was a 10 partner or so firm. A high street practice dealing with a number of fields of law such as conveyancing, criminal, corporate, wills and family and litigation.
How did you decide what to specialise in?
I found family law the most interesting. It’s much easier to remember the facts of the case if there’s a personal element or a story attached to them. Being a family solicitor takes an extra skill of being able to deal with very emotional clients and dealing with clients who themselves don’t want a divorce and so they can be reluctant or difficult to deal. I’m a good listener and want to help people and I am patient and so family law was a good fit! And I found corporate law a total yawn, ha!
How did you find turning study into practice?
Oh my gosh completely different. You have to learn all the statute titles and case law and all the proper names for procedure and then you find yourself in an interview with a client who just needs advice in layman’s terms. It’s like you have to immediately shed all the formal and technical terms and try to explain everything in easily understandable English. And the turnaround of work was obviously much quicker. You go from doing a piece of work such as a draft letter to a client in one week to having to do at least 10 letters a day and draft statements and see clients etc.
Did you work for the same firm during the 10 years or move jobs?
I’ve moved about. After I qualified I stayed with same firm for another year and then I took a 1 year career break and travelled in Australia and New Zealand. I worked for law firms as a paralegal in Melbourne and Sydney and worked for a major law firm for 3 months in central Sydney. It was quite a come down to then return home and work for little firm in Birmingham. I did question why I’d returned. I then moved to firm in Northampton for 3 years, was a locum for 6 months and then went to Market Harborough where my last job was for 2½ years before I left to set up my own firm.
What are the career routes in a solicitors (i.e. do you go from solicitor to partner or is there a structured route)?
There’s no structured route or path to partnership as some firms call it. It depends on the practice. It just depends on whether you want to become a partner and what you can bring to a firm. There are solicitors and associates who are still solicitors but are almost partners. And then partners. I didn’t want to become a partner because I didn’t want the extra liability if I didn’t get a say in how I wanted the firm to operate.
What made you decide to move from working for someone to setting up your own solicitors?
I have a lot of experience and so I was comfortable in being able to stand on my own two feet. I also knew the work that’s involved in getting a new business off the ground in terms of networking and promoting a business and I was prepared to take on that challenge. I wanted to offer the same expertise to a client but under more flexible terms, such as seeing the client in an evening or at a weekend. Financially, I wanted to personally benefit from all my hard work rather than just lining the pockets of the partners. Personally I wanted more flexibility in my lifestyle – ‘I’m prepared to work hard but if I want half a day to go shopping then I can take it and I’ll just work longer another day.
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Well done to all those brave enough to enter our Weird Law quiz.
We had 34 entries, but only one was entirely correct.
So congratulations to Matthew Keeler from Rainham in Kent who wins a camera and a copy of Professor Gary Slapper's book More Weird Cases.
Below are the questions again, and underneath, the correct answers.
1. As consumer litigation has become prolific, companies have taken extraordinary steps to cover themselves. Which, if any, of these product warnings is fabricated?
(a) Household iron - “Never iron clothes while they are being worn”;
(b) Cocktail napkin picturing waterways of South Carolina - “Caution: not to be used for navigation”;
(c) Digital thermometer - “Once used rectally, the thermometer should not be used orally”;
(d) Toilet brush - “Do not use for personal hygiene”.
2. Drivers have been prosecuted for doing some unusual things while driving. One of these is fictitious, which?
3. Who said this in furtherance of a lawsuit? “I agreed to go with him, and on the walk to a private area, he told me he wanted to make love to me. [He] found a place where we could be alone – a bathroom.”
(a) Ruby the Heart Stealer, a belly dancer who was a guest at a party Silvio Berlusconi hosted at his home last year;
(b) Mariah Yeater, who brought a paternity suit against Justin Bieber;
(c) Mike Jones, masseur, referring to Rev Tom Haggard, former leader of The National Association of Evangelicals;
(d) Ginger White, referring to the origin of a 13-year affair with Mr Herman Cain.
4. Match these offences with the number of times each appears in the law reports of the higher courts (i) benefit fraud (ii) shoplifting (iii) robbery (iv) corporate crime
(a) 1,367
(b) 1,044
(c) 11
(d) 255
5. Human rights are often misreported. Three of these headlines were published by newspapers, which wasn’t?
6. All these court declarations were made by angry judges. Three were from the US. Which one was from an English judge?
(a) “Give me a gun; I’m going to shoot his balls off and give him a .38 vasectomy”;
(b) “I don’t care if either one or both of you win this case. I have shot and killed better men than both of you”;
(c) “I’m going. It’s a f---ing travesty”;
(d) “Keep that mouth of yours shut or I will...strangle you, you b—tard”.
7. Denying legal aid to a man charged with trying to hire a prostitute, Judge Eamon O’Brien said “If you can pay for the services of the oldest profession, then you can afford to pay for the services of the second oldest profession”. Which, if any, of the following prostitution cases is false?
(a) In Ottawa, Laura Emerson, employed as a cleric at the courthouse, was accused of using it as the headquarters of her prostitute business;
(b) In Vancouver a court ruled that a brothel business’s payments to bribe police weren’t tax deductible but payments to lawyers to defend its girls were tax deductible;
(c) An English law of 1162 treated lawyers and prostitutes in the same category as service “vendors of mind or body”;
(d) A Brooklyn tax lawyer claimed as part of his tax-deductible “medical expenses” $111,000 for “therapeutic sex” with prostitutes.
8. Here are some figures on law in the American system. Match the descriptor with the figure: (i) annual number of bankruptcy filings in US federal courts; (ii) the number of dollars Judge Judy earns for a day’s work; (iii) the number of lawyers in the US; (iv) the number of people in American prisons.
(a) 1,596,355
(b) 865,000
(c) 1,225,452
(d) 2,300,000
9. Match the authors with the quotations: (i) Jonathan Swift; (ii) John Mortimer; (iii) Oliver Wendell Holmes; (iv) Karl Marx
(a) “Judges commonly are elderly men, and are more likely to hate at sight any analysis to which they are not accustomed”;
(b) “Crime takes a part of the superfluous population off the labour market and thus reduces competition among the labourers”;
(c) “Laws are like cobwebs, which may catch small flies, but let wasps and hornets break through”;
(d) “No brilliance is needed in the law. Nothing but common sense, and relatively clean fingernails”.
10. Leaders and legislators don’t always shine. Match the quotations with the years in which they were said (i) 1985 (ii) 1992 (iii) 1994 (iv) 2007
(a) “Is the West Bank a publicly or privately owned financial institution?” Enzo Scotti, Italian Foreign Minister during a briefing on the Middle East;
(b) “Ah, I must have been reading it upside down. I thought it was 81, which did seem most unfair”. Member of House of Lords, asked if he would accept 18 as homosexual age of consent;
(c) “There are more crimes in Britain now, due to the huge rise in the crime rate”. Neil Kinnock MP;
(d) “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals, like in your country." Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iranian President, referring to the US.
ANSWERS:
1 None are fabricated, all are true; 2a; 3b; 4 (a)iii robbery (b)ii shoplifting (c)iv corporate crime (d)i benefit fraud; 5c; 6c Judge Beatrice Bolton, after being convicted of an offence at Carlisle magistrates’ court in 2010; 7c, the 1162 law governed only prostitutes; 8 (a)i annual number of bankruptcy filings (b)ii number of dollars Judge Judy earns for a day’s work (c)iii number of lawyers in the US (d)iv number of people in American prisons; 9 (a)iii Oliver Wendell Holmes (b)iv Karl Marx(c) i. Jonathan Swift (d)ii John Mortimer; 10 (a)ii 1992 (b)iii 1994 (c) i 1985 (d)iv 2007.
Well done to all those brave enough to enter our Weird Law quiz. We had 34 entries, but only one was entirely correct. So congratulations to Matthew Keeler from Rainham in Kent who wins a camera and a copy of Professor Gary Slapper's book More Weird Cases. Below are the questions again, and underneath, the correct answers. 1. As consumer litigation has become prolific, companies have ...
Frances Perlman (pictured) has signed up for a law degree with the OU and hopes to work in citizen's rights, when she qualifies. But what inspired her to court the law? Here she shares her inspiration...
Mr. W studied his plump, white fingers and said to them: “You must have imagined it. I never told you to leave.”
“But you did!” I protested. “How can you deny it?”
He shook his head. “Can we just get on with the work?” he asked.
“No, we can’t,” I said. “I need that letter from you.”
“I am certainly not giving you a letter,” he said. “You are the one who is choosing to leave. I never told you to go.”
I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. He was blatantly lying. How dare he? Only last Friday, just before I had gone home, Mr. W had told me that for health reasons he could no longer go on with his project. He asked me to think over the weekend when would be a good date for me to leave, and reassured me that he would give me an excellent reference as well as the necessary letter. The conversation had gone on for about fifteen minutes, and now he was denying that it had ever taken place.
Let me explain the situation at this point. This exchange did not take place in the UK but in a part of the world where I had been residing for a number of years. In that country, if an employer doesn’t give a leaving employee a letter stating that he or she is being released on good terms, the employee could find himself unable to get another job and almost certainly be denied unemployment benefits. Nobody would wish to find themselves in such a predicament, and I was a single mother with two children.
I suspect that over the weekend Mr. W had changed his mind about my leaving, began to panic that he wouldn’t find anyone to replace me who knew the work so well, and was hoping to frighten me into staying. Underhand, spiteful and deceitful, but the truth is, I had seen flashes of that side of him over the years. It just never affected me personally.
I said no more to Mr. W then, and he probably thought he had won, but I was already planning to contact a lawyer as soon as I left the office. I had never had much to do with lawyers, but this one had helped with a matter to do with my flat, and he had seemed okay. As soon as I was outside in the street after work, I called him.
“Frances. Can’t talk long,” he said.
“Just give me a minute,” I pleaded, though actually expecting long, drawn out conversations and expensive visits to his office.
“Fire away.”
So I told the lawyer what had taken place with Mr. W, summing it up as best as I could.
“Nothing to worry about,” he said. “The law’s on your side. He has to give you the letter. You’ve been there longer than a year.” Now that I hadn’t expected.
“The law’s on my side?” I repeated.
“Yes. Got to go. Bye.”
The law was on my side. These were the words I kept hearing on the way home. Mr. W couldn’t cheat me and get away with it. I had the backing of the law. Where would I have been without it?
Up until then, though I had a vague interest in legal matters, I mainly saw it through TV dramas, the kind where when lawyers aren’t captivating the jury with scintillating summations they are eyeing one another lasciviously at meetings. =I also knew that lawyers came in handy with prenups.
But I had never actually considered that the law could protect me. I started to remember things I had heard from people who belonged to the generation before me. “The boss wanted me to sleep with him or he would fire me. I was afraid of starving. What could I do?” “I couldn’t refuse to work 24 hour shifts. I had a wife and kids to support.”
Not that long ago, employers could get away with murder. They can’t anymore. I went back to work the following day and told Mr. W that if he didn’t give me the letter I would take legal action. He must have known the law because he didn’t try to argue with me. I got the letter.
And then, when I had the opportunity to return to the UK and decided to study with the OU, I didn’t hesitate when it came to choosing a subject. It would be the law. I really hope I have the privilege one day of being able to reassure someone “The law is on your side”.
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Alex Wood, 40, did a law degree with the OU to prepare for retirement from the police force. She endured a break up, a new relationship, a house move, relocation, promotion and the birth of two children during her six years of study. And she graduated at nine months' pregnant with her third child at the Barbican degree ceremony in March 2012. Here's her story...
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Alex Wood, 40, did a law degree with the OU to prepare for retirement from the police force. She endured a break up, a new relationship, a house move, relocation, promotion and the birth of two children during her six years of study. And she graduated at nine months' pregnant with her third child at the Barbican degree ceremony in March 2012. Here's her story... Find out ...
There are 10 questions. A prize of a camera to the first three correct entries, plus the first will also receive a copy of Professor Slapper's latest book, More Weird Cases.
1. As consumer litigation has become prolific, companies have taken extraordinary steps to cover themselves. Which, if any, of these product warnings is fabricated?
(a) Household iron - “Never iron clothes while they are being worn”
(b) Cocktail napkin picturing waterways of South Carolina - “Caution: not to be used for navigation”
(c) Digital thermometer - “Once used rectally, the thermometer should not be used orally”
(d) Toilet brush - “Do not use for personal hygiene”
2. Drivers have been prosecuted for doing some unusual things while driving. One of these is fictitious, which?
(a) A lawyer was caught driving to Exeter while highlighting passages in Archbold, the 3,000 page tome on criminal pleading, on his lap
(b) A safety expert was caught driving to Dundee at 60mph while shaving
(c) A one-eyed man from Renfrewshire was caught driving while reading a newspaper
(d) A man with no eyes was caught driving on the wrong side of the road in the West Midlands
3. Who said this in furtherance of a lawsuit? “I agreed to go with him, and on the walk to a private area, he told me he wanted to make love to me. [He] found a place where we could be alone – a bathroom.”
(a) Ruby the Heart Stealer, a belly dancer who was a guest at a party Silvio Berlusconi hosted at his home last year
(b) Mariah Yeater, who brought a paternity suit against Justin Bieber
(c) Mike Jones, masseur, referring to Rev Tom Haggard, former leader of The National Association of Evangelicals
(d) Ginger White, referring to the origin of a 13-year affair with Mr Herman Cain
4. Match these offences with the number of times each appears in the law reports of the higher courts (i) benefit fraud (ii) shoplifting (iii) robbery (iv) corporate crime
(a) 1,367
(b) 1,044
(c) 11
(d) 255
5. Human rights are often misreported. Three of these headlines were published by newspapers, which wasn’t?
(a) Police can’t put up ‘Wanted’ posters of dangerous criminals on the run because of their human rights
(b) How a suspected car thief was granted his human rights to a KFC bargain and a 2-litre bottle of Pepsi
(c) Cat has human right not to be chased by neighbour’s dog
(d) Human rights laws cost Britain £42bn
6. All these court declarations were made by angry judges. Three were from the US. Which one was from an English judge?
(a) “Give me a gun; I’m going to shoot his balls off and give him a .38 vasectomy”
(b) “I don’t care if either one or both of you win this case. I have shot and killed better men than both of you”
(c) “I’m going. It’s a f----ing travesty”
(d) “Keep that mouth of yours shut or I will...strangle you, you b--tard”
7. Denying legal aid to a man charged with trying to hire a prostitute, Judge Eamon O’Brien said: “If you can pay for the services of the oldest profession, then you can afford to pay for the services of the second oldest profession.” Which, if any, of the following prostitution cases is false?
(a) In Ottawa, Laura Emerson, employed as a cleric at the courthouse, was accused of using it as the headquarters of her prostitute business
(b) In Vancouver a court ruled that a brothel business’s payments to bribe police weren’t tax deductible but payments to lawyers to defend its girls were tax deductible
(c) An English law of 1162 treated lawyers and prostitutes in the same category as service “vendors of mind or body”
(d) A Brooklyn tax lawyer claimed as part of his tax-deductible “medical expenses” $111,000 for “therapeutic sex” with prostitutes
8. Here are some figures on law in the American system. Match the descriptor with the figure: (i) annual number of bankruptcy filings in US federal courts; (ii) the number of dollars Judge Judy earns for a day’s work; (iii) the number of lawyers in the US; (iv) the number of people in American prisons.
(a) 1,596,355
(b) 865,000
(c) 1,225,452
(d) 2,300,000
9. Match the authors with the quotations: (i) Jonathan Swift; (ii) John Mortimer; (iii) Oliver Wendell Holmes; (iv) Karl Marx
(a) “Judges commonly are elderly men, and are more likely to hate at sight any analysis to which they are not accustomed”
(b) “Crime takes a part of the superfluous population off the labour market and thus reduces competition among the labourers”
(c) “Laws are like cobwebs, which may catch small flies, but let wasps and hornets break through”
(d) “No brilliance is needed in the law. Nothing but common sense, and relatively clean fingernails”
10. Leaders and legislators don’t always shine. Match the quotations with the years in which they were said (i) 1985 (ii) 1992 (iii) 1994 (iv) 2007
(a) “Is the West Bank a publicly or privately owned financial institution?” Enzo Scotti, Italian Foreign Minister during a briefing on the Middle East
(b) “Ah, I must have been reading it upside down. I thought it was 81, which did seem most unfair.” Member of House of Lords, asked if he would accept 18 as homosexual age of consent
(c) “There are more crimes in Britain now, due to the huge rise in the crime rate.” Neil Kinnock MP
(d) “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals, like in your country." Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iranian President, referring to the US
Email your answers to platform-competitions@open.ac.uk by no later than Friday 27 April 2012. Please make the subject of your email ‘Weird Law’ and include the number of each question and the correct answer(s), plus your full name and address. Entries wth all correct answers will be entered into a draw and the first three drawn will receive a prize.
Gary Slapper is the founder of the Open University Law School and is a Visiting Professor at the OU. He is Global Professor at New York University, and Director of its London campus. His latest book More Weird Cases is published by Wildy, Simmonds & Hill.
You can follow him on Twitter @garyslapper
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Professor Frecknall-Hughes has worked as a chartered tax consultant and chartered accountant. Her research spans legal history, ethics, strategic management, international bsiness, finance and the history and development of the tax and legal professions.
Until May 2009 she was President of The Tax Research Network and she has written articles on taxation for numerous publishers and journals.
Professor Frecknall-Hughes has taught and examined undergraduates at all levels across a wide range of business subjects including revenue law, business law, auditing and financial and management accounting.
She has co-designed modules at postgraduate and undergraduate levels, and formulated teaching policy and practice as a programme director and divisional director of studies.
She has two undergraduate degrees from the University of Oxford, a doctorate in revenue law and tax practice, postgraduate teaching qualifications from the University of Leeds and a Masters in Commercial Law from the University of Northumbria. She is a fellow of the Higher Education Academy.
"I am delighted and honoured to be leading The Open University’s Law School at such an exciting time, " she said. "Since its conception in 1998, the School has gone from strength to strength."
The Law School is introducing its first postgraduate qualification, the Master of Laws (LLM) with the presentation of the first module to students in May 2011, and further modules beginning in May and November this year.
The Open University Law School is home to over 5000 Students. Its programmes include the LLB (Hons) – a qualifying law degree in England and Wales – which is offered in collaboration with The College of Law. It also offers a Master’s degree in law (LLM). The most popular law module is Rules, rights and justice: an introduction to law (W100) which has more than 2,500 current students.
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Taxation expert Professor Jane Frecknall-Hughes (pictured) has been appointed Head of The Open University Law School. Professor Frecknall-Hughes has worked as a chartered tax consultant and chartered accountant. Her research spans legal history, ethics, strategic management, international bsiness, finance and the history and development of the tax and legal ...
The aim of the exercise is to weaken the opponent’s case, and to help establish facts which are favourable to the side of the cross-examiner. It’s an opportunity to expose any unreliability of an opposing witness’s testimony. Cross examination can be done politely and without hostility. Sir John Mortimer QC notes that his late father (also a distinguished barrister) used to say “the art of cross-examination is not the art of examining crossly”
When a prosecuting advocate has finished questioning (called “examining”) a witness called by the prosecution, defence counsel can cross-examine that witness. Later the prosecution has the same chance to discredit the evidence of defence witnesses. In a civil case, similarly, the claimant and the defendant (usually through advocates) can cross-examine each other, and each other’s witnesses. The procedure has a long history. The noun “cross-examination” was first recorded in a case in 1729, although the technique itself is much older, appearing in one case involving a will in Norwich in about 1200. Cross-examination is an excellent method of clarifying the facts of a disputed matter. It is a serious intellectual contest fought in the threat of grave consequences. It is people at the peek of rational truth-finding.
The advocate has many advantages over the witness, like knowing the rules of evidence, and choosing the line of inquiry in cross-examination. But the advocate doesn’t always get the upper hand. A barrister in Ireland once began a cross-examination of an Irish Prelate with the words: “Am I wrong in thinking you are the most influential man, and decidedly the most influential Prelate or Potentate, in the Province of Connaught?” The witness replied: “Well, you know, they say these things, but it is in the sense that they would say that you are the very light of the Bar of Ireland: these are children’s compliments”
Cross examination can involve counsel taking a witness through a sequence of propositions he’ll have to agree with until he’s eventually cornered into agreeing with one final deadly point. But, equally, advocates sometimes pivot quickly to a riveting question. In opening the cross-examination of Frederick Seddon (who was on trial for the murder of his lodger Miss Eliza Barrow), Sir Rufus Isaacs, Attorney General, began thus:
ISAACS: Miss Barrow lived with you from July 26, 1910, to September 14, 1911?
SEDDON: Yes
ISAACS: Did you like her?
This flummoxed Seddon and he didn’t regain his composure. He could see that if he said he had liked her he’d be asked why he’d put her in a pauper’s grave, whereas if he said he hadn’t liked her he’d tilt the case further against himself. Decidedly, a killer question. Seddon was eventually executed for the murder.
One masterful cross-examination was that in 1909 by Sir Edward Carson KC (King’s Counsel) of the witness William Cadbury, director of the chocolate company. Between 1901 and 1908, Cadburys obtained half their cocoa from islands off Angola which exploited forced slave labour. Cadburys, knew about the slavery, and profited hugely from it for years but didn’t reveal it to the public. Instead, it traded on its reputation as a model employer, and the benevolent treatment of its workers at Bourneville in England. Meanwhile, people were snatched as slaves and forced to march up to a thousand miles to the plantations, and killed if they didn’t keep up. The Evening Standard published an article critical of Cadburys, and the firm sued saying it made them look like “a bunch of canting hypocrites”. In a brilliant cross-examination lasting five hours, Carson dismantled the case of William Cadbury and the firm. The final exchange was a dramatic dénouement. After hours of quizzing about how much slave blood and suffering was involved in the production of the chocolate, and the complicity of Cadbury, there was this question:
CARSON: Have you formed any estimate of the number of slaves who lost their lives in preparing your cocoa from 1901 to 1908?
That is a bit like asking “have you stopped beating your wife?” - a question which, answered either way, condemns the quizzed person. In answer to the question whether he’d quantified the suffering on which he’d sold chocolate, the director replied meekly:
CADBURY: No, no, no.
The jury found Cadburys had been libelled but awarded damages of one farthing.
Sir Henry Curtis-Bennett KC (1879-1936) was famous for maintaining that in cross-questioning an advocate should never ask a question if he didn’t already know the answer. A modern case in point was recounted by Sir Oliver Popplewell in 2003. As a young barrister defending a man charged with careless driving, Mr Popplewell was cross-examining a prosecution witness who had testified that the defendant had been speeding. The witness was repeatedly pressed to estimate the speed of the car but declined. Having satisfactorily established the witness’s incompetence in car-speed estimation, Mr Popplewell didn’t sit down but asked one final fatal question: “Why are you telling the court you cannot estimate the speed of my client’s car?” The witness’s response was calm and clear: “Because I have never seen a car go as fast as that in all my life!”
Professor Gary Slapper was Head of Law at The Open University 1997-2011. He is now Global Professor at New York University, and Director of New York University in London. He is also Visiting Professor of Law at the Open University. A new edition of his book How the Law Works is published by Routledge.
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Hi im new to the OU, im hoping to start studying Law in June, starting with the Y186 course.
I was wondering if anyone could explain the order and dates you do each course, and if you can only get funding for 120 credits per year. Is this an accurate order of how the course will go? Also when are the Level 2 Free choice courses usually completed?
Any help would be great, I look forward to studying here!
Pre-Study:
01 June 2012 – October 2012
Year 1 Study:
02 February 2013 – September 2013
06 October 2012 - March 2013
06 October 2012 – June 2013
Total 120 Credits.
Year 2 Study:
02 February 2014 – October 2014
02 February 2014 – October 2014
Total 120 Credits.
Year 3 Study:
02 February 2015 – October 2015
02 February 2015 – October 2015
Total 120 Credits.
Level 2 Optional Free Choice:
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Hi im new to the OU, im hoping to start studying Law in June, starting with the Y186 course. I was wondering if anyone could explain the order and dates you do each course, and if you can only get funding for 120 credits per year. Is this an accurate order of how the course will go? Also when are the Level 2 Free choice courses usually completed? Any help would be great, I look forward ...
Della Macdonald, in a dispute with another woman about who owned the cat, had planned to call her pet dog Hamish as a witness at Stornoway Sheriff Court on the Isle of Lewis.
Ms Macdonald claimed that when the court saw the affection the cat showed to Hamish in court, by snuggling up to him, it would be clear that the fought-over feline was hers.
The story began in 2010 when Nicola Dempster, a 19-year old hotel chef from the Western Isles off Scotland, purchased a kitten. She named him Smudge and cared affectionately for him but after six months he got lost and disappeared.
Ms Dempster searched all Smudge’s favourite haunts, posted a Facebook appeal and reported him missing to the Cats Protection Society. All of that was, though, to no avail.
Meanwhile, Smudge had turned up in a pitiful state outside the door of Della Macdonald. She nourished the black and white stray back to health and named him Oscar.
Later, Ms Dempster was euphoric to spot ‘Smudge’ at a roundabout and took him home.
Police were summoned to an explosive altercation when Ms Macdonald discovered where ‘Oscar’ had been taken.
Ms Macdonald’s legal action to reclaim ‘Oscar’ has now been discontinued as her star witness, Hamish the dog, has died and Ms Macdonald has become ill. The judge, Sheriff David Sutherland, decreed that the cat should remain with the original owner, Miss Dempster.
There are odd precedents of cases in which people have disputed the ownership of pets. In 2009 in Florida, two women fought a civil case over a 13-year old African Grey parrot.
For ten years, Angela Colicheski from Florida had loved her parrot Tequila. Then, one day he flew away over her garden fence. Three years later, she was sitting in a local Dunkin Donuts chatting to Sarita Lytell, whom she’d just met, when they started to talk about parrots. Lytell said she had one called Lucky that she had found three years earlier.
It became evident that he was the one Colicheski had lost but Lytell refused to return him. Tequila didn’t give sworn testimony but he did give squawk testimony. As soon as he was brought into court and saw his previous owner he emitted what witnesses said was a loud call of recognition. The court ruled he was the personal property of Ms Colicheski.
In 2006 in Argentina, in litigation between Jorge Machado and Rio Vega, the court ruled that a parrot called Pepo, which each man claimed was his, should be imprisoned until it uttered the name of its owner. Five days later, it squawked “Jorge” and sang the anthem of his owner’s favourite football team – San Lorenzo. Game over. Mr Vega lost.
Dogs have given testimony in earlier cases. In 1987, a border collie called Tetter appeared in a constructive dismissal case in Hampshire. It became relevant to know whether Tetter, who had been the subject of wrathful outbursts of the employer in the case, was well behaved. Tetter was called to give evidence and responded correctly when given such instructions as “sit” and “up”. His evidence assisted the claimant’s case.
In 1994, a robbery conviction of two men was secured with the assistance of Ben, an Alsatian tracker dog. On appeal, the Lord Chief Justice said that evidence about a dog’s behaviour was admissible provided jurors were warned that “the dog may not always be reliable and cannot be cross-examined.”
Professor Gary Slapper was Head of Law at The Open University 1997-2011. He is now Global Professor at New York University, and Director of New York University in London. He is also Visiting Professor of Law at the Open University. His latest book More Weird Cases is published by Wildy, Simmonds & Hill
You can follow him on Twitter @garyslapper
In his latest update Gary Slapper, Visiting Professor of Law at The Open University, looks at cases brought to court over the ownership of animals.... Litigation over the ownership of a cat has just ended because a key witness who was supposed to give evidence, a dog called Hamish, has died. Della Macdonald, in a dispute with another woman about who owned the cat, had ...
Professor Taylor (pictured), who was Associate Dean at Nottingham Business School, has a PhD in Economics and has directed research projects related to online teaching of Economics and the wider Social Sciences.
She is an Associate Director of the Economics Network at the University of Bristol, and has worked with the Economic and Social Research Council and the Higher Education Academy on addressing the identified skills deficit in quantitative methods across the Social Sciences.
Professor Taylor said she felt 'very privileged' to have joined the OU. For full OU news release click here.
Professor Rebecca Taylor, formerly of Nottingham Trent University, is the new Dean of The Open University Business and Law School. Professor Taylor (pictured), who was Associate Dean at Nottingham Business School, has a PhD in Economics and has directed research projects related to online teaching of Economics and the wider Social Sciences. She is an Associate Director of ...
Hi,
My first post.
Is there any case law on an injury claim whilst entering a performance area?
e.g. An individual decides to enter a Morris Dance street performance,then is 'surprised'when a DANCER steps backwards !! The person then falls & is injured.
Has he / she a claim? i.e. against the dancer? the street festival organisation? (the street is closed & subject to a premises license)?
Note this is the first such incident in 22 years.
COMMENT:
If a sports ground the claim / claimant would be thrown out !!!
Regards,Paul
Hi, My first post. Is there any case law on an injury claim whilst entering a performance area? e.g. An individual decides to enter a Morris Dance street performance,then is 'surprised'when a DANCER steps backwards !! The person then falls & is injured. Has he / she a claim? i.e. against the dancer? the street festival organisation? ...
The good news is that more than ten years of open2.net content has been moved to a new website at open.edu/openlearn, creating one home for all the Open University's free online learning for the public.
The new site continues to support OU-BBC broadcasts, but also gives access to iTunes U podcasts, YouTube videos, free study units taken from OU modules and topical content, arranged under subject areas relating to the OU curriculum.
There's lots to do - you can watch Evan Davis exploring the state of British manufacturing; explore the frozen planet; get to know the science and history of the Olympics or have a look at our study units in LearningSpace.
Any existing links that direct people to open2.net content will automatically send people to the relevant pages on the new site.
You’ll find more information at open.edu/openlearn.
open2.net, formerly the online home of joint Open University and BBC programming, is now closed. The good news is that more than ten years of open2.net content has been moved to a new website at open.edu/openlearn, creating one home for all the Open University's free online learning for the public. The new site continues to support OU-BBC broadcasts, but ...
As part of an expert blog, OU Visiting Research Fellow, Peter Sommer makes three predictions for 2012 related to issues around digital evidence.
This blog brings together all the responses to the call for predictions of developments in 2012 and beyond, whether affecting IT law, IP, data protection, e-disclosure, law firm technology or any number of vaguely related developments. Read the blog on SCL - The IT Law Community.
As part of an expert blog, OU Visiting Research Fellow, Peter Sommer makes three predictions for 2012 related to issues around digital evidence. This blog brings together all the responses to the call for predictions of developments in 2012 and beyond, whether affecting IT law, IP, data protection, e-disclosure, law firm technology or any number of vaguely related developments. ...
A civil appeals court in Aix-en-Provence has awarded €10,000 damages to a wife for having to endure her ex-husband’s sustained lack of sexual interest in her for several years.
The award of compensation for “injurious abstinence” in Monique v Jean-Louis B was made under article 1382 of the French civil code. French law says that married couples undertake to lead a “shared communal life” and the appeals court ruled that this includes reasonable sexual consortium.
Monique, 47, had brought the action following 21 years of marriage which she claimed were sexually unfulfilling. Her husband, 51, defended the allegation by arguing that there was significant sexual liaison albeit intermittent because of his health problems which included chronic fatigue arising from a heavy work schedule.
The court rejected the husband’s case. It stated that a sexual relationship between a husband and wife manifests the affection they have for one another and ruled “in this case it was absent”.
It found that the husband had failed to prove to the court that health problems were the reasons for his continuing abstinence from sex.
Historically, the English church courts would sometimes order a medical examination of a husband to determine whether he had the physical capacity to consummate a marriage. In 1778, for example, in a Canterbury case, penis inspectors were appointed by the court to evaluate the man’s virility.
The medical examination showed that the husband’s manhood (known legally as his “virile member”) was judged to be “soft and short”.
The court, however, noted that such flaccidity “does not always continue” (a man, after all, might not be fully aroused when being inspected by officers of the law) and ordered the marriage to run for three months before judgment could be conclusive.
In England, the matrimonial obligation is to maintain a “mutually tolerable sexual relationship” although even that doesn’t apply across the life of a marriage. The old legalistic maxim that normal frequency of marital sex is “twice a week”, expressed in the delicate maxim bis ruere in hebdomade (to disturb twice in seven) isn’t concrete law.
As the seasoned family law judge Lord Merriman said in a case in 1947 “No one can sit here as long as I have sat without realising that there is the greatest diversity of standards between one set of spouses and another as to what is or is not a normal standard of sexual intercourse”.
In the 1947 case he ruled that a husband who’d been prodigious in his sexual demands “sometimes even as much as five times in one night” and who had also made “certain revolting suggestions” to his wife about alternative sexual practices, was acting unreasonably. The major text on sex law says it would be unreasonable if “a husband insists on sex after every meal”.
In 1960, the Court of Appeal ruled that a wife from Croydon was in breach of her marital obligations when, with great intolerance towards her husband who wasn’t as sexually charged as she was, she repeatedly badgered him for sex.
To rouse him into copulation she would, in the early hours of the morning, “pull his hair, catch hold of him by the ears, and shake his head violently to and fro”.
By always eventually conceding to her demands, however, the husband was judged to have accepted her behaviour. So, no divorce for him – a crash helmet in bed was his only legal option.
Gary Slapper is Global Professor at New York University, Director of New York University in London, and Visiting Professor of Law at The Open University. His latest book More Weird Cases is published by Wildy, Simmonds & Hill
You can follow him on Twitter @garyslapper
Gary Slapper, Visiting Professor of Law at The Open University, reflects on legal cases for compensation when it is claimed there has been a failure to deliver reasonable sexual performance. The French attitude to making love is a matter of renown, but now there is judicial precedent showing that a failure to deliver a reasonable sexual performance over time can result in a ...
Hi,
Firstly if I am asking a question that has been asked numerous times before I apologise and am happy to be pointed in the right direction.
Can anyone recommend/advise some pre-course reading material/texts/websites prior to starting W100.
Thanks in advance :o)
Nici
Hi, Firstly if I am asking a question that has been asked numerous times before I apologise and am happy to be pointed in the right direction. Can anyone recommend/advise some pre-course reading material/texts/websites prior to starting W100. Thanks in advance :o) Nici
Useful links
Today (14 November 2011) is Student Finance Day. With student fees and loans high on the agenda for those considering university, Platform caught up with some prospective students via Twitter to find out how fees have influenced their decision making so far... Name: Mrs Claire Siciliano Age: 27 Location: Welwyn Garden City Have you got A Levels or ...
They include laptops, internships and all-expenses paid trips to New York, South America, Florida, South Africa and Europe and the final ten students in each Award will be invited to attend the Undergraduate of the Year Awards in Canary Wharf, London on April 13, 2012, where the winners will be announced by The Rt Hon Michael Portillo from among the best and most employable students in the country.
There are 12 Awards up for grabs identifying the top undergraduates in IT and Computer Science, Management, Law, Arts and Humanities, Business and Finance, Engineering, Social Sciences, Construction, Engineering and Design, Low Carbon, Accountancy and Economics.
Plus there are two special awards: ‘The Future Business Leader’ Award open to students from any discipline and the ‘First Year’ Award open to undergraduates from any course who have just started their second year.
Enter at the Undergraduate of the Year Awards website
Closing date for entries is 31 January 2012.
There are great prizes up for grabs in the 2012 TARGETjobs Undergraduate of the Year Awards. They include laptops, internships and all-expenses paid trips to New York, South America, Florida, South Africa and Europe and the final ten students in each Award will be invited to attend the Undergraduate of the Year Awards in Canary Wharf, London on April 13, 2012, where the ...
Hi,
I have recently started the module 'starting with Law' I was wondering whether the OU uses Harvard Referencing?
Thanks, Fiona
Hi, I have recently started the module 'starting with Law' I was wondering whether the OU uses Harvard Referencing? Thanks, Fiona
Hi everyone,
Just got word from the OU that my registration for W200 is official, for classes starting 04 February 2012. Something a bit weird, though. In the e-mail, this:
Scheduled to be mailed 20 April 2012 for use 19 May 2012
Does this mean that the first two months are to be done without books? Do we need to buy them ourselves?
Hi everyone, Just got word from the OU that my registration for W200 is official, for classes starting 04 February 2012. Something a bit weird, though. In the e-mail, this: Scheduled to be mailed 20 April 2012 for use 19 May 2012 Does this mean that the first two months are to be done without books? Do we need to buy them ourselves?
New recruit reporting for duty,will be startin in few days time,any pointers..............
New recruit reporting for duty,will be startin in few days time,any pointers..............