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On... our American cousins and writing off student debt

Student blogger Carrie on writing off student debt in exchange for a fixed term of employment, US-style...

 

Over the Crimbo holidays I was delightfully alerted to a tiny snippet of information in a mass email received by my dad. He’s very supportive of my studies and when I told him I was going to be writing for Platform he promised to keep his eyes peeled for relevant things I could write about.

Now, this tiny snippet said:

“Monday on Fox news they learned that the staffers of Congress family members are exempt from having to pay back student loans.”

I beg your pardon?? Why? I was pretty shocked when I read this but after a bit of delving I found an article which explained it a bit better:

“[...] the Committee on House Administration did establish the Student Loan Repayment Program to provide House employing offices an additional tool with which to recruit and retain qualified staff in the service of the House. In general, the program enables participating House employing offices to authorize repayment of qualifying student loans on behalf of eligible employees who agree in writing to remain in their employment for a period of one year.”

Now that makes more sense. A lot of employers in the UK currently offer a similar kind of thing; “we’ll pay your tuition fees for uni if you agree to work for us for three years” kind of thing. But do any offer to write off student loans? And, more importantly, do you think they’ll STILL continue to offer such schemes when tuition fees rise?
 

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Robyn Bateman - Wed, 05/01/2011 - 17:46

I think the opportunity of having your student loans paid off in exchange for a fixed term contract would be a fantastic, if unlikely, option in the UK. To be debt free and have guaranteed employment? Fantastic! Back to reality though (sadly)... I think it's important that companies invest in their staff and support their career development. It does cost money, and will sadly cost increasingly more money, but hopefully coughing up to improve the workforce and keep staff motivated will pay for itself.

Cazzdevil - Wed, 05/01/2011 - 20:41

 I couldn't agree more Robyn, I've been on both sides of this fence now.  I've paid for my own education with the OU, but when I first started in my job they offered to pay my way through a foundation degree on a day-release basis and I think in-job training which is paid for by employers is fantastic.  It gives employers the opportunity to take on staff at a lower level and train them to whatever specific needs they have.

 

However...  To quote one of my favourite films (see if anyone gets the reference) you could end up with the scenario whereby:

 

"If we give you a job JUST to give you experience, you'll take that experience and get a better job.  And then that experience will benefit someone else".

 

Catch twenty two.

Cazzdevil - Wed, 05/01/2011 - 22:25

I linked through to this via my Facebook account and got this very interesting comment, I thought it deserved to be put up on here too:

 

"Problem with the "subsidised student" is that studies and availability of courses depends on the market. Imagine: Study of medicine 'funded' by national drug companies. Vested interest determining the curriculum. Not so good. But that's how US of A works. Results: little free thinking, arts and humanities on their knees."

Robyn Bateman - Thu, 06/01/2011 - 09:56

Very true, I wouldn't want to train my staff up only for them to move on and use their skills somewhere else. We can't win! I guess we'd have to hope that staff development and investment breeds loyalty and happiness in the workplace.

Cazzdevil - Thu, 06/01/2011 - 10:38

Well it worked that way for me, the company paid for my Foundation Degree in quantity surveying, paid for my driving lessons, and have since paid for my sign language and mental health awareness courses (I've sourced them all and the company gets training grants for them all but they were still supportive of my training) and it's fostered a degree of loyalty in me.

 

I say a degree because there are still days where I feel like looking elsewhere but the company has been good to me and would be good to me again if it were relevant to my job so I realise I've actually got it quite cushy.

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Valen Smith - Sun, 11/12/2011 - 20:33

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About Carrie Walton

I dropped out of school at 17, halfway through my A Levels and got a job. I’ve worked full time ever since, but when I reached 23 I enrolled with the OU and started on a journey towards the degree I’d never stopped wanting. In 2009 and aged 29  I realised  I didn’t want my journey to end and formulated a new plan which includes a masters, a PhD, research and whatever else I might be able to cram into a journey now held under the umbrella term “lifelong learning and ongoing self-improvement”.



I finished my BSc (hons) Open in December 2011 by which time I'd already started on an MA in Social Science research at Durham University with a view to doing a doctorate in the not too distant future.  The OU isn’t getting rid of me that easy though, I've already signed up for a BSc (hons) in Criminology and Psychological Studies and I plan to keep studying with them for as long as grey matter will allow me to, it’s all part of my never ending lifelong learning path.



Alongside studying, I work full time for a building contractor in the North East of England as a Liaison Manager. Working is a means of affording and appreciating the things I really enjoy; mountain biking, hiking, theatre, gigs, cinema, eating out, writing, the list could go on, I just like doing things. In whatever spare time I can muster after that,  I volunteer for OUSA and am a school governor.



My name is Caz (or Carrie) and this is my journey from dogsbody to doctorate…